The Firebird is an incredible disc.
Back in 2000, it set the standard for overstable nine-speeds. To date, any disc manufacturer that’s serious about its gear offers something overwhelmingly similar. That’s no coincidence, either. The Firebird is a must-have mold for any skill level. And clearly, it’s one worth imitating.
But while the FD3, Felon, Raptor and Hellfire all fall into the “copycat” category, there’s seemingly yet another rival for the Firebird. And incredibly, it’s within Innova’s own lineup …
The flat-top Firebird.
This isn’t because the flat-top Firebird poses any kind of threat to the regular, run-of-the-mill Firebird. Moreover, it’s because the flat-top Firebird is marketed by Innova as a – wait for it …
Firebird.
And here’s the wacky part …
It is NOT a Firebird.
It’s a completely different disc.
As such, why Innova has yet to make the flat-top Firebird its own mold with its own name and its own marketing is beyond me. To bring you up to speed, generally speaking, there are three types of Firebirds largely accepted by those at least somewhat familiar with Innova’s work:
* Note #1: Yes, there’s more to it than this, but the above is a good starting point.
ALL are plenty overstable.
Usually, the stock Firebird, however, has some kind of dome to it. Thrown flat and hard, this results in a disc that will soar fairly straight before dumping heavily at the end of its flight.
On the same line and with the same power, the Sexton Firebird will do the same thing, but with a flat profile. This makes it feel great in the hand for sidearms, hence its widespread popularity.
The flat-top Firebird, though?
No glide. All beef.
Pancake.
Commonly available in Champion plastic, essentially, it’s a PG-rated Tilt. So much so, in fact, for most amateur arms, it’s way more of a utility disc than it is an every-round workhorse.
This goes for the Pro Tour, as well.
And for as much as I’d like to rebrand the table-top Firebird something awesome like the “Machine,” “Widowmaker” or “Flat-Earther,” for a mold with its roots firmly entrenched in Firebird soil, it only feels fitting the new name would stick with Innova’s avian theme:
- The Harpy.
- The Martial.
- The Peregrine.
Heck, keep it simple …
The FirebirdX.
* Note #2: I’d even be fine making the “FAF” name official – click here to learn more.
Will this happen?
Not a chance.
But 3-series discs exist to distinguish molds as iconic as the Roc, Leopard and Teebird from their flatter (gasp), more torque-resistant counterparts. And let’s not forget the FL exists, as well. It’s a Firebird that’s Less overstable, and for some reason, Rancho Cucamonga gave it its own name.
Go figure.
Give the flat-top Firebird its due.
Now or never, Dr. Dunipace.
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Playing Parker’s pasture in Covington georgia. Approach hole 10 a group on the hole says play through. RHBH no pathway to the basket. Best hope is to hit landing zone. I pull out my coveted 150g flat firebird. Proceed to pure about 175ft 8 ft wide left side tunnel with a forehand. Tight Gap, any turn at all and you’re screwed. Firebird fades back and lands midway of circle 2. Group says wow didn’t even know you could throw down that side. Firebird. Best disc in disc golf.
Amen to that.
Everything else is just an imitation.
Where did you get these 150-class FAF Firebirds, by the way?
Not sure I’ve ever asked before …
I’m not 100% sure. I think it was Marshall Street. It was like 5 years ago. I saw a lightweight one in the color I wanted in Star plastic so I ordered a couple of them. Came in and they were absolute board flat. Very skinny. Even more so than my Sexton firebirds. It felt like I had won the lottery. It also could have been disc golf center.
Nice, man!
It pays to be vigilant!
I may be about to blow some minds. I’ve never messed around with a flat top Firebird myself. Between my Galleon and my regular Firebird I feel plenty covered. From what I hear though, Innova does essentially what you are describing. The Infinite Scepter and Millennium Draco are both (allegedly) made from the Firebird mold and a “flat-topping process.”
Thanks for commenting, Jamie!
They’re close, but different …
Admittedly, I’ve only tinkered with the Scepter.
But the Draco is in and out of my bag somewhat regularly.
The Draco is a nice middle-ground between the stock and flat-top Firebirds.
Not quite as overstable as a true flat-top, but with WAY more glide.
Also, it’s got that flat-top feel, which is great.
But yeah, not quite as overstable.
Great mold, BTW.
It’s in my bag right now, actually 🙂
Also, I need to try the Galleon – thanks for the tip!
Ah, not quite the revelation I thought it would be then. I know you’ll love the Galleon, but only because I saw you posted before about the Whippet; they are exactly the same.
Woah, didn’t know that …
Another one of those Infinite rebrands, eh?
Love those things.
I’ll add the Galleon to the list – thanks, Jamie!
This was news to me 🙂